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		<title>Comment on Corporate culture and women in IT by Chris Wolff</title>
		<link>http://cloudpundit.com/2012/05/15/corporate-culture-and-women-in-it/#comment-7976</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Chris Wolff]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 May 2012 20:11:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Lydia, Thanks for the effort you put into this blog. I&#039;m proud to work for (and I have benefited personally by working for)  a technology company that invests in developing women leaders. Darwin taught us diversity improves sustainability, and that Neanderthal behavior such as you observed will go the way of the dinosaur.  Bummer it takes so long.  You&#039;re not crazy--this stuff is still out there.  You have to call it out to get rid of it!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lydia, Thanks for the effort you put into this blog. I&#8217;m proud to work for (and I have benefited personally by working for)  a technology company that invests in developing women leaders. Darwin taught us diversity improves sustainability, and that Neanderthal behavior such as you observed will go the way of the dinosaur.  Bummer it takes so long.  You&#8217;re not crazy&#8211;this stuff is still out there.  You have to call it out to get rid of it!</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Tip of the Spear by Lydia Leong</title>
		<link>http://cloudpundit.com/2012/05/14/the-tip-of-the-spear-2/#comment-7969</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lydia Leong]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 May 2012 18:56:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I agree that consultants have a place in sourcing deals as well, particularly large-scale deals. Although my colleagues who cover strategic ITO, for instance, look at many fewer deals but also look at them in much greater depth, and often maintain long-term relationships that allow them to see how these deals play out over a longer period of time.

Some of my former analyst colleagues have switched sides to the consulting part of Gartner because they prefer longer-term deeper engagements rather than the quick-hits that inquiry tends to represent.

But I would maintain it&#039;s inaccurate to say that analysts don&#039;t have the practical side of late-stage deal-sourcing. There are certain types of deals for which full-fledged consulting services are preferable, though, which is part of why Gartner maintains a TPI-style consulting practice centered around deal negotiation.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree that consultants have a place in sourcing deals as well, particularly large-scale deals. Although my colleagues who cover strategic ITO, for instance, look at many fewer deals but also look at them in much greater depth, and often maintain long-term relationships that allow them to see how these deals play out over a longer period of time.</p>
<p>Some of my former analyst colleagues have switched sides to the consulting part of Gartner because they prefer longer-term deeper engagements rather than the quick-hits that inquiry tends to represent.</p>
<p>But I would maintain it&#8217;s inaccurate to say that analysts don&#8217;t have the practical side of late-stage deal-sourcing. There are certain types of deals for which full-fledged consulting services are preferable, though, which is part of why Gartner maintains a TPI-style consulting practice centered around deal negotiation.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Tip of the Spear by [Guest Post] Does the consulting approach beat published research? &#171; The IIAR Blog</title>
		<link>http://cloudpundit.com/2012/05/14/the-tip-of-the-spear-2/#comment-7962</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[[Guest Post] Does the consulting approach beat published research? &#171; The IIAR Blog]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 May 2012 11:31:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] saw an interesting blogging spat last week between Stanton Jones of ISG and Lydia Leong at Gartner, with the flames fanned by tweeted comments from Phil Fersht of HfS. The row was centred [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] saw an interesting blogging spat last week between Stanton Jones of ISG and Lydia Leong at Gartner, with the flames fanned by tweeted comments from Phil Fersht of HfS. The row was centred [...]</p>
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		<title>Comment on Corporate culture and women in IT by Mike Perham</title>
		<link>http://cloudpundit.com/2012/05/15/corporate-culture-and-women-in-it/#comment-7932</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mike Perham]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 May 2012 16:24:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Comment on The Tip of the Spear by Stanton Jones</title>
		<link>http://cloudpundit.com/2012/05/14/the-tip-of-the-spear-2/#comment-7930</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Stanton Jones]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 May 2012 15:57:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi Lydia, thanks for taking time to respond to this. 
 
As I did on Phil’s blog, a couple points of clarification:
 
I think research-based vendor insights are very important: “…research like Gartner’s Magic Quadrant and Forrester’s Wave can be extremely valuable resources”. I also think the same of this particular MQ: “As usual, this Magic Quadrant (MQ) is thorough and well thought out.”
 
The key message of my original post is that the outcome of these vendor insights can be very different, depending on what position the researcher sits in. Having the ability to look broadly across thousands of customers via inquires produces one view, while looking deeply into hundreds of customers via on the ground consulting (the “tip of the spear” metaphor in my post) produces another view. Both are important, but may produce significantly different results.
 
In our opinion, the former is well suited to early stage buyers looking for broad insights. The latter is better suited to later stage buyers looking to make a decision. But both are important.
 
I’m eager to hear what others think about this viewpoint - agree or disagree. Either way, looking forward to more conversation about this in the future!

SJ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Lydia, thanks for taking time to respond to this. </p>
<p>As I did on Phil’s blog, a couple points of clarification:</p>
<p>I think research-based vendor insights are very important: “…research like Gartner’s Magic Quadrant and Forrester’s Wave can be extremely valuable resources”. I also think the same of this particular MQ: “As usual, this Magic Quadrant (MQ) is thorough and well thought out.”</p>
<p>The key message of my original post is that the outcome of these vendor insights can be very different, depending on what position the researcher sits in. Having the ability to look broadly across thousands of customers via inquires produces one view, while looking deeply into hundreds of customers via on the ground consulting (the “tip of the spear” metaphor in my post) produces another view. Both are important, but may produce significantly different results.</p>
<p>In our opinion, the former is well suited to early stage buyers looking for broad insights. The latter is better suited to later stage buyers looking to make a decision. But both are important.</p>
<p>I’m eager to hear what others think about this viewpoint &#8211; agree or disagree. Either way, looking forward to more conversation about this in the future!</p>
<p>SJ</p>
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		<title>Comment on Corporate culture and women in IT by dgranzow</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[dgranzow]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 May 2012 13:47:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Lydia, you were one of the very first people to interview me for a sysadmin job when I was starting my career.  I was young and clueless and I remember being kind of surprised that my interviewer was female. I was again surprised as the interview went on and I realized you had deep technical knowledge. I know better now, and I feel it is unfortunate that women seem to be faced with this kind of sexism on a daily basis.

I managed to get hired and over the next four years I was exposed to a work environment that had a pretty decent representation of females in technical roles, the company had a pretty good culture of recognizing people for their ability without regard to their gender or other non-important factors. (There were excellent employees there who had purple hair or who brought snakes to work -- gender was the least of our differences!)  So much so that when I hear of sexist situations like the ones you have described above, I almost find it hard to believe it still exists.  

I think this is a big problem with the &quot;women in tech&quot; issue: The field is still predominately male, and the attitudes of the men are shaped by their experience. Either they are used to diverse, inclusive environments and don&#039;t believe sexism exists, or they are used to a male-dominated, hostile environment and think &quot;that&#039;s just the way the world is honey, get used to it.&quot;  Both find the existence of the other hard to beleive.  Reminders like yours serve as a reality check for how far we still have to go.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lydia, you were one of the very first people to interview me for a sysadmin job when I was starting my career.  I was young and clueless and I remember being kind of surprised that my interviewer was female. I was again surprised as the interview went on and I realized you had deep technical knowledge. I know better now, and I feel it is unfortunate that women seem to be faced with this kind of sexism on a daily basis.</p>
<p>I managed to get hired and over the next four years I was exposed to a work environment that had a pretty decent representation of females in technical roles, the company had a pretty good culture of recognizing people for their ability without regard to their gender or other non-important factors. (There were excellent employees there who had purple hair or who brought snakes to work &#8212; gender was the least of our differences!)  So much so that when I hear of sexist situations like the ones you have described above, I almost find it hard to believe it still exists.  </p>
<p>I think this is a big problem with the &#8220;women in tech&#8221; issue: The field is still predominately male, and the attitudes of the men are shaped by their experience. Either they are used to diverse, inclusive environments and don&#8217;t believe sexism exists, or they are used to a male-dominated, hostile environment and think &#8220;that&#8217;s just the way the world is honey, get used to it.&#8221;  Both find the existence of the other hard to beleive.  Reminders like yours serve as a reality check for how far we still have to go.</p>
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		<link>http://cloudpundit.com/2012/04/03/citrix-cloudstack-openstack-and-the-war-for-open-source-clouds/#comment-7831</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Amazon APIs Are Fine &#8230; For Amazon &#124; latest techn]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 May 2012 08:22:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 02 May 2012 13:33:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<link>http://cloudpundit.com/2011/12/09/beware-misleading-marketing-of-private-clouds/#comment-7782</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Hosted private clouds at MMS 2012 were not true private clouds &#124; VCritical]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Apr 2012 16:08:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Apr 2012 04:48:55 +0000</pubDate>
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